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#1 2017-04-18 15:10:21

Steve Ballmer, former CEO of (ugh) Microsoft, got bored shortly after retiring (at 57, the motherfucker), so he decided to do a bunch of research on exactly what the government does with our tax money.
My takeaway:  This man, who was CEO of one of the most important organizations of the 20th Century, has gone through his life up to a very recent point with the vague notion that the poor are all somehow "taken care of" by the government--this despite the fact that his own wife is deeply involved in charity work.

Watch for it to go live on Tax Day!  Of course, if it follows the tradition of Microsoft products, it will crash, return several days later with all the text upside-down and backwards, and possibly reassign your e-mail address to a random stranger.

[edit] Actually, my first sentence is misleading.  It should read, "decided to pay a fuckton of other people to do a bunch of research..."

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#2 2017-04-18 15:46:59

He also owns the Los Angeles Clippers, an organization even more fucked up than Micro$oft.  He earlier tried to buy the Seattle SuperSonics and the Sacramento Kings but both deals fell through.  This guy's claim to fame is he was in the right garage at the right time.

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#3 2017-04-18 18:50:42

Baywolfe wrote:

He also owns the Los Angeles Clippers, an organization even more fucked up than Micro$oft.  He earlier tried to buy the Seattle SuperSonics and the Sacramento Kings but both deals fell through.  This guy's claim to fame is he was in the right garage at the right time.

He just recently bought the clippers which is probably the best thing to happen to that team in years.  He was the add-on CEO at MSFT after Gates stepped down

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#4 2017-04-18 19:29:37

So wait Georgie...

Is he awful because he didn't know and left the philanthropy up to his wife? (I do this, Melons gets to do that and she keeps it organized).

Or is he awful cuz she told him he was full of shit with his assumptions and he decided to go find out why and publish the results of the study (hopefully in a non-partisian sort of way).

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#5 2017-04-19 16:42:28

The fellow may be "out of touch" to some extent but,  this sounds like a superb idea. 
Given the bucket-loads of $$ .gov vacuums from our pockets...on top of massive deficit spending, this is a move in the right direction. 
Somehow, methinks crossing the "event horizon" of pentagon/deep state spending will tougher than physics associated with a real black hole.

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#6 2017-04-19 17:22:50

I did as much surface research as is possible on the Internet a while back and the results were actually surprising/disappointing.  America's Military Expenditure as a Percentage of the GDP was 5.6 in 1988 and only 3.3 in 2015.  Now our GDP in 2015 was somewhere in the neighborhood of 18 TRILLION dollars so, yeah, it's not chump change but Vendor Payments (i.e. Welfare) costs us around 3% of the GDP so, it's all comparable.

What's more shocking is the what states get back from Washington for each federal tax dollar their citizens pay.  South Carolina is something like 8:1 while the wealthier states get back 1:1 or less.

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#7 2017-04-19 21:35:03

Baywolfe wrote:

I did as much surface research as is possible on the Internet a while back and the results were actually surprising/disappointing.  America's Military Expenditure as a Percentage of the GDP was 5.6 in 1988 and only 3.3 in 2015.  Now our GDP in 2015 was somewhere in the neighborhood of 18 TRILLION dollars so, yeah, it's not chump change but Vendor Payments (i.e. Welfare) costs us around 3% of the GDP so, it's all comparable.

What's more shocking is the what states get back from Washington for each federal tax dollar their citizens pay.  South Carolina is something like 8:1 while the wealthier states get back 1:1 or less.

You're missing the "Outsourced" military costs.  We used to all take turns in the chow hall and on guard duty.  It's all contracted now into other buckets.

I'm not going out on a limb by saying we spend far more now than we did in the 1980's when it was our (un)announced goal to outspend the Soviet Union.

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#8 2017-04-20 16:15:00

Emmeran wrote:

So wait Georgie...

Is he awful because he didn't know and left the philanthropy up to his wife? (I do this, Melons gets to do that and she keeps it organized).

Or is he awful cuz she told him he was full of shit with his assumptions and he decided to go find out why and publish the results of the study (hopefully in a non-partisian sort of way).

Yah, my own Spouse and myself definitely have our own spaces in the marriage.
I am actually happy about this development because I see it having a real impact on both the government and the governed, hopefully for many years to come.
No, I'm not down on the project or the way the man spends his money; I'm down on any human being who makes it to age 57, lives in a "democracy," and understands that little about how his society works (or doesn't).

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#9 2017-04-20 16:16:42

Baywolfe wrote:

South Carolina is something like 8:1 while the wealthier states get back 1:1 or less.

The "red" states clean up on Federal money and always have, because they're so much poorer.
And of course these are the same folks who think "socialism" is a dirty word.

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