#26 2017-12-22 18:36:20

Smudge wrote:

If there's a lesson which is emerging from the Trump phenomenon, it's that we DO need to rethink the executive branch from the ground up. The presidency provides far too much power to a single individual.

alas, if so.....then nothing will never get done....even less than now...without the Pre. having enough of an edge to prod Congress along...I see it as the Presidents have obtained more power in order to get anything done.....Congress has been lacking and the Exec office had to something to keep things running....and it evolved....now to get the Pres. back to keeping both feet in the batters box...because a few have abused the power..

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#27 2017-12-22 19:32:00

The Executive branch has served as the dumping ground of all of the agencies, departments and bureaus that have been dreamed up in the last 100 years to "solve" problems large and small. So, they are considered political agencies, headed, if not run, by an endless conveyor belt of lick spittles and fart catchers that spend their careers washing in and out of Washington on each political tide. Any look at a confirmation hearing and you see only the modern equivalent of Japanese Noh theater, devoid of the give and take and compromise imagined by the founding fathers.

The first thing to do would be to take some of the big TLAs and spin them off into independent entities, controlled only by the budget asked for by the Executive branch and approved by Congress. Bring some esprit de corps back to the civil service by paying a good wage and telling the unions to get stuffed when you fire an incompetent. The President will see his pulpit much less bully if he can't make law (sorry, "executive orders") by fiat from within the broad umbrella of the grossly swollen Executive Branch. For good measure also remove his ability to mobilize troops into battle above the division level without Congressional approval.

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#28 2017-12-23 01:37:59

GooberMcNutly wrote:

For good measure also remove his ability to mobilize troops into battle above the division level without Congressional approval.

That may not be exactly the right way to limit the scope of his military power, but I like the direction of your thinking on this.

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#29 2017-12-23 08:02:46

GooberMcNutly wrote:

Bring some esprit de corps back to the civil service by paying a good wage and telling the unions to get stuffed when you fire an incompetent.

Isn't it astounding that the only unions that actually matter anymore are Public Employee Unions which by the very definition are an oxymoron.

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#30 2017-12-23 08:11:20

Smudge wrote:

we DO need to rethink the executive branch from the ground up.

This is exactly right.

What I am not sure I agree with though is "too much power to one person" only because of the huge number of self serving cockheads on both sides of the proverbial isle. It is impossible to get anything meaningful accomplished for the good of the nation or the world with the tribe of greedy motherfuckers fighting for themselves.

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#31 2017-12-23 08:14:27

Bigcat wrote:

Smudge wrote:

we DO need to rethink the executive branch from the ground up.

This is exactly right.

What I am not sure I agree with though is "too much power to one person" only because of the huge number of self serving cockheads on both sides of the proverbial isle. It is impossible to get anything meaningful accomplished for the good of the nation or the world with the tribe of greedy motherfuckers fighting for themselves.

I posted this before I read that Muggy Wuggy posted pretty much the same thing (although more eloquently). Sorry Mugs, the plagiarism was unintended.

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#32 2017-12-23 08:15:25

Emmeran wrote:

GooberMcNutly wrote:

Bring some esprit de corps back to the civil service by paying a good wage and telling the unions to get stuffed when you fire an incompetent.

Isn't it astounding that the only unions that actually matter anymore are Public Employee Unions which by the very definition are an oxymoron.

Orwellian.

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#33 2017-12-24 10:48:28

Emmeran wrote:

GooberMcNutly wrote:

Bring some esprit de corps back to the civil service by paying a good wage and telling the unions to get stuffed when you fire an incompetent.

Isn't it astounding that the only unions that actually matter anymore are Public Employee Unions which by the very definition are an oxymoron.

Baseball and Basketball have good ones too.  In basketball the players basically run the league, for fuck's sake.

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